Post by overcomer on Jun 6, 2015 10:38:49 GMT -5
I am praying about how to start being more affective in teaching my children to engage in their own protection through the Armor of God. I am not sure how to best impress on them how important it is. I was seriously seeking solutions and showing them in small ways what to do some months ago and then I got caught up in circumstances and am ready to come back to this with them.
I have prayed with them and asked them to repeat with me repentant statements of xyz but none of them have just said from t heir own admonishion in PRAYER this or that thing is wrong and I turn from it and I ask protection in this area etc...
I basically ended up failing my kids becasue I became so passive in my marriage I made myself give up and 'wait' for the man if the house to take responsibilities ( AKA neglecting the kids growth to leave room for the dad to grow into his place as leader)
Now not only do I have to do everything I didn't do years ago that would have been more dad's job I have to break all the bad habits in the kids -on my own.
I would appreciate any wisdom and practical suggestions.
Not completely alone but HS as Father...
One thing that the Holy Spirit has done beautifully is allowed circumstances to come in that get us object lessons yet if we don't use the tools then we are suffering a great deal.
We moved a thousand miles away from or past however we have right next door to us some of the SAME Spirits operating strongly in the lives of our neighbors thus affecting us as well!
Trying to teach the children to battle in the spiritual that of which reasoning with others minds and fighting with others physically will NEVER accomplish yet at the same time teach them practical things in keeping safe and holding boundaries ( sometimes the reasoning is ness. and if that is not affective a physical action has to take place)
The boy next door is very aggressive and physical ( did martial arts into brown belt) his mind works on control and manipulating tactics and his body is always aggressive... he has been taught an eye for an eye and he is physically punished cruelly and verbally abused ( it never changes his heart to engage him as he is engaging others and being told "see how it feels" isn't making a positive impact) He's very sensitive to anyone calling him on his actions and he went from acting as though he wanted me to be a mom like figure ( which I took on as best I could even at the extent of risking out my own kids on some occasions to be patient with him ) It is now as though the demons are driving him to be the meanest cruelest boy he can be. It angered him to have me love him read with him, listen to him, feed him etc...He now tells me I am a worthless excuse for a human being and that he HATES me. He physically is frustrated if he has to be in my presence. And he hurls these mean statements and tries to get me to engage in demeaning conversations about topics he knows I stand against like the occult, violence( he likes to emulate the hunger games survival of the fittest ) , lying -oh my at every turn, why we should try to follow the ten commandments and not dwell on video games and horror stories etc... he is constantly trying to prove that he is talented and smart etc... very ego based. He declares he hates everyone and doesn't care about anyone but himself. H e has HUGE anxiety and abandonment issues ( his parents are divorced the father has custody and raises him the parents both are oppressed and have mental problem and abuse in t heir backround). The Bible is discredited in t he father and son's eyes becasue of discrepancies between versions and exposure to Jehovah's Witness and Mormon false scriptures ( the mom is in a generational JW family.) I have talked about demonic influence and they actually are aware of the greater stuff like the Illuminati, masonary, kabbalistic influences and the things that are happening in these end times but they will not claim belief and trust in Messiah/ Jesus or admit to demonic influences at a personal level and that if we trust Jesus we can use his tools to battle.
If we want to.
My 13 year old has some of the same tendencies but he is not that aggressive/violent or cruel I feel he is more selfish and controlling than pure hateful ( not that he is better than or couldn't go deeper into aggression). So this 13 yo boy and he clash terribly. And it IS bringing out hate n my boy. The neighbor has enough hate towards him to kill him -he's 100 lbs bigger so likely he could. We keep them separate.
My 15 year old was able to connect with the boy on a interest based approach like nature topics etc but is easily taken advantage of and doesn't like the manipulation and certainly doesn't like the physical aspect of the friendship so has discontinued it.
The big boy likes to chase and 'capture' the little ones 2 and 4 yr olds and he more aggressively verbally bullies "I'm gonna kill you" hits and pushes and threatens the 6 yo boy...
Most of the abuse in our family home was against me not so directly AT the children. But the demons are targeting these kids and me for abuse and it doesn't seem to matter that an abuser is out of our lives we move etc... more come into our lives and often in uncontrollable ways.
Besides the spirit of control and neglect coming through their dad. Could this be from my kids' dad letting violent computer games be played by our 13 yo.? This same boy being 'like his dad' and groomed by his dad to be this type of boy even with me protesting... but becasue I didn't wield the full power of God on the spirit behind all this so we have it continue?
I need to teach my kids to say no to the spirit and deflect the attacks.
And how to respond to neighbors and sibs that are not trying to live above the wrong attitudes.
Discerning Good from Evil Heb 5:14
My hands are tied on making the home perfect but I can try to protect them from the financial strain, my personal loneliness, fears and anxieties so they can see me more stable... I can't give them their dad nor ( make him a new man ) ... and I can't get them a different dad... I can't give them sometimes what they need. That is just the way it is. But I need them to learn to submit all that LACK to Abba becasue he is the only way to survival.
I have prayed with them and asked them to repeat with me repentant statements of xyz but none of them have just said from t heir own admonishion in PRAYER this or that thing is wrong and I turn from it and I ask protection in this area etc...
I basically ended up failing my kids becasue I became so passive in my marriage I made myself give up and 'wait' for the man if the house to take responsibilities ( AKA neglecting the kids growth to leave room for the dad to grow into his place as leader)
Now not only do I have to do everything I didn't do years ago that would have been more dad's job I have to break all the bad habits in the kids -on my own.
I would appreciate any wisdom and practical suggestions.
Not completely alone but HS as Father...
One thing that the Holy Spirit has done beautifully is allowed circumstances to come in that get us object lessons yet if we don't use the tools then we are suffering a great deal.
We moved a thousand miles away from or past however we have right next door to us some of the SAME Spirits operating strongly in the lives of our neighbors thus affecting us as well!
Trying to teach the children to battle in the spiritual that of which reasoning with others minds and fighting with others physically will NEVER accomplish yet at the same time teach them practical things in keeping safe and holding boundaries ( sometimes the reasoning is ness. and if that is not affective a physical action has to take place)
The boy next door is very aggressive and physical ( did martial arts into brown belt) his mind works on control and manipulating tactics and his body is always aggressive... he has been taught an eye for an eye and he is physically punished cruelly and verbally abused ( it never changes his heart to engage him as he is engaging others and being told "see how it feels" isn't making a positive impact) He's very sensitive to anyone calling him on his actions and he went from acting as though he wanted me to be a mom like figure ( which I took on as best I could even at the extent of risking out my own kids on some occasions to be patient with him ) It is now as though the demons are driving him to be the meanest cruelest boy he can be. It angered him to have me love him read with him, listen to him, feed him etc...He now tells me I am a worthless excuse for a human being and that he HATES me. He physically is frustrated if he has to be in my presence. And he hurls these mean statements and tries to get me to engage in demeaning conversations about topics he knows I stand against like the occult, violence( he likes to emulate the hunger games survival of the fittest ) , lying -oh my at every turn, why we should try to follow the ten commandments and not dwell on video games and horror stories etc... he is constantly trying to prove that he is talented and smart etc... very ego based. He declares he hates everyone and doesn't care about anyone but himself. H e has HUGE anxiety and abandonment issues ( his parents are divorced the father has custody and raises him the parents both are oppressed and have mental problem and abuse in t heir backround). The Bible is discredited in t he father and son's eyes becasue of discrepancies between versions and exposure to Jehovah's Witness and Mormon false scriptures ( the mom is in a generational JW family.) I have talked about demonic influence and they actually are aware of the greater stuff like the Illuminati, masonary, kabbalistic influences and the things that are happening in these end times but they will not claim belief and trust in Messiah/ Jesus or admit to demonic influences at a personal level and that if we trust Jesus we can use his tools to battle.
If we want to.
My 13 year old has some of the same tendencies but he is not that aggressive/violent or cruel I feel he is more selfish and controlling than pure hateful ( not that he is better than or couldn't go deeper into aggression). So this 13 yo boy and he clash terribly. And it IS bringing out hate n my boy. The neighbor has enough hate towards him to kill him -he's 100 lbs bigger so likely he could. We keep them separate.
My 15 year old was able to connect with the boy on a interest based approach like nature topics etc but is easily taken advantage of and doesn't like the manipulation and certainly doesn't like the physical aspect of the friendship so has discontinued it.
The big boy likes to chase and 'capture' the little ones 2 and 4 yr olds and he more aggressively verbally bullies "I'm gonna kill you" hits and pushes and threatens the 6 yo boy...
Most of the abuse in our family home was against me not so directly AT the children. But the demons are targeting these kids and me for abuse and it doesn't seem to matter that an abuser is out of our lives we move etc... more come into our lives and often in uncontrollable ways.
Besides the spirit of control and neglect coming through their dad. Could this be from my kids' dad letting violent computer games be played by our 13 yo.? This same boy being 'like his dad' and groomed by his dad to be this type of boy even with me protesting... but becasue I didn't wield the full power of God on the spirit behind all this so we have it continue?
I need to teach my kids to say no to the spirit and deflect the attacks.
And how to respond to neighbors and sibs that are not trying to live above the wrong attitudes.
Discerning Good from Evil Heb 5:14
My hands are tied on making the home perfect but I can try to protect them from the financial strain, my personal loneliness, fears and anxieties so they can see me more stable... I can't give them their dad nor ( make him a new man ) ... and I can't get them a different dad... I can't give them sometimes what they need. That is just the way it is. But I need them to learn to submit all that LACK to Abba becasue he is the only way to survival.
