Homosexuality

[hearingGod]

k.... i had mentioned wanting to talk about the life of Brian b4 ....had a christian out of that lifestyle contact me feeling like a hypocrite because an old flame in that lifestyle showed up.... so knew it 'was time' to make an edu.

[James]

A humble, compassionate and righteous video Hg.
I feel the same way.
The church, even "full gospel" people have overlooked a very important key to getting people freed from homosexuality (among other sins and bondages) .. namely generational curses (sins of the fathers passed on to future generations).
Personal repentance of sin and receiving Christ .. and 'deliverance' are all necessary. Sadly, sometimes not dealing with a root cause and curse can prevent successful deliverance.
Even when successful, an unaxed root below the surface might once again grow and overwhelm a person.
- I think there is much to be said (and practiced) in doing what Israel did in getting fully cleansed and freed ..
namely standing before God repenting of and renouncing all the sins of their fathers and previous generations. calling to light .. and axing those legal access points ... (and in our case as N.T. believers .. claiming and declaring our redemption from all curses- thru our curse bearer .. and His blood - thru which EVERY CENT HAS BEEN PAID for our release). Without this (Like you said) .. Satan and his demon gang use their scriptural 'legal rights' to attack and capture people
.. even from early childhood.
Does that make it fair? No!
( but since when does he care about being fair)? He's out "to steal, kill and destroy."
He is the original child molester .. using lies and manipulations to distort a child's thinking. Often he also uses his victims ( the molested/raped ) to molest/rape several more children/young adults ... and that segment of society multiplies. ( Sodom and Gomorah didn't become overrun with homosexuality by "something in the drinking water").
{ .. and may I add .. woe to those who cause Jesus' little ones to stumble}!
{{ Lord, the enemy is coming in like a flood. Raise your standard against him .. as you said you would. ... and please accompany the workers you send into your harvest field with gifts of specific revelations and discernment }} .

[buildthefarm]

the Levitical code is still the law of this world. this is a great word. it reminds me of smoking. you know some people hate the smell of cigarettes and will tell smoker to get away from them and all that. i loved cigarette smoke when i was a child. about 6 months ago was the first time in my life i ever was disgusted by the smell of smoke. that came after God freed me from that spirit and i had quit smoking for over a year. it took that long to get the taste out of my mouth and began to hate it. hate it.... thats the hard part isnt it. anyway after God healed me from that it still took a long time to hate it. and in that mean time i had to make the choice over and over and it would be thrown in my face over and over even after deliverance. the spirit tried to come back over and over and i had to fight that fight 1000 times. i think deliverance ministers should really understand follow up too. and sexual issues are MUCH more complicated than substance addictions, because of all the soul ties and the depth that God ingrained sex into our spirits as part of creation. tough subject but thanks for the word

[warrior]

The Holy Spirit will use this; it is spot on. I expect folks will get directed to it. Others will try to stop it, operating in the spirit they do, so pleased there are no comments. God bless you.

[buildthefarm]

you know i think ive said this elsewhere but i think its helpful here too. its hard for many people to understand something that i just learned a few months ago about God. God is a God of mercy, and a God of wrath, and a God of justice, and a jealous God, and a God of love and many other things but that list will do for now. God is also unchanging. now when im angry, anger is the only thing i feel, and when i feel compassion, compassion is the only thing i feel. but God feels them all at the same time. He gave us emotions to help us understand the depth of His caring. strong emotion makes a powerful impression on us and teaches us what God feels. but God sees us all and in one place or time there is beautiful things going on by one person and ugly things by another. and none of us is without sin so even His children are at all times as a group both breaking His heart and making Him happy and pleased. and He feels it all together at once from all spiritual life every place and all time.

if a man loves God and believes, but cannot find a way out of his evil ways, God credits him salvation as the free gift that it is, but He also admisters justice because God is a just God.

and may i add that when one of His own is called home, not only are they in a better place, but God is using that event to shape and sharpen another. this video and what comes next from it the outgrowth of a seed planted long ago in your heart. growing can feel uncomfortable at times but its all part of Gods bigger perfect plan. all things work together for good for those who love the Lord. your friends life continues to minister through you.

[hearingGod]

when i was selling art at gallery hops...one of the businesses that let me show my work in their place...the guy was gay... just like steven... in church & had adopted children. of course gay patrons of his would come in... a couple came in and loved one of my pieces that was birthed from a vision i had (i'd show you but the online art site i had it posted at is now defunct & i don't have time to look thru my files & post...so i'll describe it...) it was a dark piece showing 3 sets of hands/arms hanging from a loft. the middle set of hands had a black boot stepping on one of the hands.... so basically an interpretation of the crucifixion scene.
the gay men loved the piece but funny how dark will filter dark & light will filter light.... they had no clue what it was, and when they asked me my inspiration...standing there w/ a wad of cash in hand.... i got to tell them. (if it's pulled on for darkness, it's a really twisted piece...but if for light, very solem reflection on what our Lord did for us.) suddenly,,, the cash went back into the pocket and they went away.

the business host, being no different in 'wrong doctrine' than cults, doing all kinds of good & such & yet skimming over the Word to what they want to hear. i can hope that i planted seeds.
it is rough because the word says they are cursed and handed over (and very clear that practitioners will not see heaven), so we must love them and correct them in the truth. unfortunately not a welcomed thing...but for brian (in the video), it was soul-saving. i was THE ONLY person in his life sharing the truth...and that thought makes me tremble...if i had not, the one i loved dearly would have been found in hell....it's such a humbling thought, and such a fire for the commission to preach the truth, no matter the cost...even if it's for only one. there are many cursed from the sins of their forefathers that don't want this lifestyle nor desires but can see absolutely no way out. it is so important that we can educate those, in absolute love, w/ searching hearts that deliverance can happen & curses broken & freedom at hand. they need to know the truth & be set free xoxoxo

[hearingGod]

hee hee... i'm not sure what you are saying really. i've stated in the vid. my peace, & i stated above that homosexuals that call Lord, Lord & yet do not do as He says are no different than people in cults that pick & choose what they want to hear. they need truth & they need deliverance. the approach is key.... the 'you damn sinner' approach works with NO ONE, LOL. but if we share what the word says and challenge them in that gen. curses are real, rejecting God as creator has real circumstance...sin opens up to satan & deliverance needs to happen...then they can actually get free. they can accept or reject that, but i'm not for a passive acceptance that says 'oh, you love Jesus... you'll be just fine'. it's by the fruit. if they are aware of the truth & do not seek the way out then they are deceiving themselves and manipulating the scriptures (yikes, another curse). it is our duty to correct in love, cuz if we save one sinner.... nuff said. are we jiving or not?

[hearingGod]

we can't know decisions people make...we have our own salvation to work out. brian (from my vid.) may have only been saved because he contracted aids and could not engage in that lifestyle anymore... i can't know....the end result has to be abandonment to Jesus and he did that absolutely.

every day people r trying to get out of some sin & fall back into it...but the key thing we don't know is where their heart is. it's not our place to judge the moment where they have a right heart bent toward God and have been slipping back into the sin and Jesus picks them back up. todd white had a testimony just as such w/ drug use...but there was a heart change & fwd motion. continual slipping can only go on for so long (Hebrews 6: 4-8). anyone could be the worst of sinner, but after the confession of Jesus, there has to be forward motion, lest we abuse the privilege and end up hearing "I never knew you". again this is stuff we can't know on their end.

Hebrews 10:26-27New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Christ or Judgment

26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries.

you can pick any version... it's all there:
biblehub.com/1_corinthians/6-9.htm
and other places too. is it not sinning 'willfully' for a professing Christian when it's so clearly stated in the Word a cause for concern? so that's y we have to edu them. pointing out the Word is not condemning them, they will either conform or break upon the rock of Jesus Christ.  it never starts out w/ that first though... the Holy Spirit meets their need thru us first (Jesus healed and demonstrated the power of God).  we are a prophetic people...maybe the Lord has something special to tell them, or they need healed? demonstration first.  any condemnation they feel should b their own sorrow for sin... just as Jesus demonstrated to us by using parables.  then comes the Word. they need to know the truth that's been glossed over.

we can only see fruit that shows what's lipservice & whats truth.  the cool thing about Jesus is He went to the sinners & people changed or not.  Jesus always kept moving...he wasn't visiting the same sinners and partaking of the spirit they had.  share, encourage them... the ones that believed, followed and changed.  forward motion.  our ministry should b the same.

the key here w/in this forum is that most understand that deliverance is a part of everyday life. there is a spirit of homosexuality. they can overcome it.  they need to know the reasons why & how to be free.

i just by share what the Word says and edu how to get free. do i sound condemning n not align w/ the Word? if true, how so? i hope many homosexuals that don't even know God will find that vid & have an eureka moment, and say, 'if that's true, God may be real & if this is all so, then i can be forgiven, free and delivered from this....I WANT THAT... i'll give this a try!"

if you look at the comments below this vid (i am both freedoms01 and hearingGod)... this is how i am across the board to encourage people to move fwd out of sin.  gentle but firm & always edu the way out.  whatever he decided to do...i did my part...and he didn't defend or rail back at me, so I know I planted a seed.

i don't mind chatting about this at all... it helps clear up how you are perceiving things.  the enemy will always try to fill in the blanks, but y let him?... take away any attempt he may try to divide & conquer... misunderstandings, confusion etc... there need not b any cause for offense in the truth

[hearingGod]

i left the house 10:30am yest. for work & didn't get home til' 8:30pm where kids & farm chores awaited. i invite anyone to chime in, this isn't the hearingGod only forum *wink*.

i don't see a point in reiterating the scriptures I wrote above again. for steven, actively engaged lifestyle & professing 'Jesus', doesn't jive biblically. we can't make him receive the truth & we may be persecuted for sharing it, but if the Lord leads us to do as i said above "Holy Spirit meets their need thru us first" and then we share the truth... they can take it or leave it & we are not condemning them by doing so.

i'm not of advocates of street preachers that tell everyone 'your a damn sinner'and call out this or that person... that, turns people away from God. I advocate asking Jesus absolutely everything to do w/ everyone & in everything. constant communion w/ the Holy Spirit.  sometimes the person is already cold and the H.S. says nothing because it'd be a waste of my time to SAY ANYTHING at all...but i can still show kindness even in a smile and be a light regardless. we havta only do what we c the Father doing. it just seems that you have in your mind a perception that i'm like a street preacher, LOL.  it's balance...the truth sets peeps free & the Holy Spirit draws us to whom is open.  some people give all of christianity a bad name by hurling scriptures at people w/ condemnation etc. & you can tell they r not spirit-filled by the fruit! whether or not they still get into heaven is not my biz cuz i dunno their hearts & what God is doing w/in them.

did you by chance see my spiritual housecleaning series?
...the girl situation you mentioned where she is homo & crying out.... she needs to go further and get baptized in the Holy Spirit... the spirit needs free reign in there to help, guide & direct. baptism in the Holy Spirit enables Power, just as He promised...and with that authority of deliverance. the spiritual h.c. series walks a person thru cleansing, getting spirit filled, delivered & then exhorting to keep going. greater works is the goal. carnal man has to die... it's what keeps agreeing w/ satan to keep doors open. carnal man dies when we completely surrender to the Holy Spirit....and then we are not a slave to it. satan will always come knocking but as derek prince said (his was depression, but we get the jist):

"my old enemy did not give up on me. i still had to struggle against depression. but the great difference now was that it's attacks come from without, not from within."

 k?  it isn't a matter of anyone being stuck as homo...that's not abundant life...it's that they need to go further.  they only know if we say, 'here i am, send me!' 
if they are in the process of trying but not spirit=filled & die... that's God's biz to judge not ours...the name of Jesus saves if there still remains a sacrifice for sins (*Hebrews 10:26-27).  again... not our bizness to judge. 

funny, we are down to one shower & i squeegee the walls every day (& often clean) bcuz we still haven't gotten the new hard water softener in & am trying to keep down build up.  there are 4 males & just one girlee me here & it's hard to feel i get private time around here... it feels like i always have to hurry cuz someone is on the other side waiting next for their turn.  it's not that much difference w/ ministry as well & i do the best i can to 'keep up' & pray more laborers to meet the needs of the harvest flooding in.

if you feel your shower dream is saying something dastardly about me, then say your peace to warn whoever & feel free to move on.  big boy forum & everyone's job to take everything to the obedience of our Lord J.C. for His say on any matter 

[warrior]

If we say we have no sin in us... I'm delivered of the things I'm delivered of and that is awesome and none of it is down to me. This body is a body of death but to me it is just a vessel. I am born again; I am spirit. When the priest took the lamb he did not look at the one offering the lamb but at the lamb itself, devoid of blemish. I am not perfect but I am perfectly covered. Sin does not come with no cost but do we submit to the sin or submit to Jesus. To me it is clear that those who embrace their sin have chosen their master whether they profess Christ as Lord or not. Those who make Christ their Lord are convicted of their sin and disgusted with it. They are on a journey. There is no third option; the only one with no sin is Jesus. He is our victory. God hates sin. It can be a snare to keep us from Him. God loves sinners so very much it brings tears to my eyes. Jesus loved us to death.

[hearingGod]

i didn't have the revelation of deliverance w/ brian so i couldn't walk him thru to freedom (that was in the 90's--i hadn't been thru gen. deliverance either). so if it was brian in your dream that was a 'past' exactly right 'way it was'. i know part of that experience was training cuz i knew brians heart & his history....i knew he was saved & yet bound & i had to know why he didn't have the abundant life of being a christian that the bible promises. now i understand, oppression in need of deliverance. hence the video to edu whoever....and the spiritual h.c. series as well.

no one needs the title or identity of 'gay'... deliverance takes it away----wooo hooo!

practicing gays that claim Jesus have the Word to condemn them, not us. His people perish for a lack of knowledge, so He needs us to edu the entire world.