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Post by buildthefarm on Apr 10, 2013 5:41:02 GMT -5
why hasnt he been dehooked? that way someone from the school was asking me over and over in my dream just now. i couldnt understand at all but it was about my son that had the problem at school yesterday so i looked it up. the first thing that came up on google was a fishing article called dehook or die! i copied the first couple paragraphs and put them below. i know this is something to do with helping my son, but i dont know exactly what yet? praise God though for answering so quickly. i just want to put His plan into action to help my child. how does one spiritually dehook a child?
“Look at all of that bait! We nearly blacked-out the well with greenies and baby runners. Man, we’re going to beat ‘em up today!” Sixty minutes later, the recently enthusiastic angler reaches into the well to grab his first baitfish of the day and unexpectedly blurts, “What in the world happened to our bait? They’re all dead! They were doing fine when we ripped them off our bait rigs and threw them in the livewell. Now, what in the world are we supposed to do?”
If the same tragic incident hasn’t ever occurred to you, it will. The unfortunate event that took place cannot be blamed on the livewell, nor was it a problem with the bait-rigs. The issue of why all of the baitfish died lies solely with precisely how the helpless critters were handled in the first place.
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Post by warrior on Apr 10, 2013 6:05:35 GMT -5
So lets handle it the right way. The way of the world to deal with issues is by punishment, condemnation and medication. It doesn't work. Try spiritual housecleaning. I'm sorry I don't know how old your children are or what their level of understanding is. You have authority over your children in any case.
Some random thoughts - is a hook a type of snare? Where does the hook come from?
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Post by hearingGod on Apr 10, 2013 14:48:38 GMT -5
in allllll of the spiritual housecleaning you did upon yourself did you also declare no access and freedom for your kids as well? it's easy to think of it re: generational stuffs but what we might forget is that even tho' we've axed all the iniquity that we dug ourself into... while we were in our sin... things could've already hooked in... or a child already made decisions of agreement w/ those spirits. we assume 'it was my junk, not theirs'.
what is best w/ them is to go thru the st. augustine's and reword all those self eval. questions so a child would b able to understand. this, i had actually wanted to do cuz a necessary thing (i found this out as i did it w/ my eldest son, but in the moment... couldn't really write all those spirit-led things down). of course parents can tailor, but u kno how kids can get bored & we sit there looking into space going, 'uh.... gimmie a moment' and then pray & then they tune out. it was that way w/ my son.... was great stuff the spirit gave, just took so long cuz of his attention span and the fact that i really wanted him to 'get it'. sometimes I hadda look up in the dictionary cuz i just couldn't express it as his level, well enough.
alas... so much to do. but what i wanted to do is infuse parables & whatever to help them understand if they've aligned w/ any of those things. many things at their tender age are the beginnings of unforgiveness/bitterness (mean kid at school etc.) and things that just wound them making soft spots for the bigger things. but if we already had the stains there, they coulda touched them before we washed up.
i'd like to still do that (st. augustine's for kids)... a very necessary ministry. maybe as more group stuff evolves, more interaction can happen regarding projects as such. ah, the value of multiplication : D
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Post by buildthefarm on Apr 10, 2013 17:44:55 GMT -5
that sounds lovely.....whats a st. augustine again?
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Post by hearingGod on Apr 10, 2013 19:36:44 GMT -5
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Post by buildthefarm on Apr 10, 2013 21:10:02 GMT -5
thanks for the resource guide there. ok now that we have come to the dream section i may actually have time to tell the dream maybe it will give a lil more insight. couldnt write it all this morning was on my way to work.
i had my oldest son and my youngest son in the backseat of the old taurus. it was the car my wife had before we had our youngest. then she got the minivan and i got stuck with the taurus. anyway we were waiting in line at the school i went to for elementary, also where my oldest son went for pre k. we were waiting to pick up my middle son and he was going to sit in the front seat with me. the teacher walked him to the car and said "why hasn't he been dehooked?" i couldnt hear her so i asked her to repeat it. she said it again and i understood but i thought i heard wrong because idk what dehooked means. so i tried to turn off the radio but the button wouldnt work. i kept appologyzing for not understanding and she kept repeating it. 4 maybe 5 times. then i woke up and thought i better get the phrase written somewhere before i forget it. and then i googled it. anyway that stuff may add a little context to the dream part of this.
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Post by hearingGod on Apr 11, 2013 8:47:26 GMT -5
soul tie w/ mom? i haven't hadda even consider that w/ my kids...but is first thing i think of after reading this dream.
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Post by Eric Latham on Apr 11, 2013 16:17:43 GMT -5
Um.... I see this a completely different way. Wow... Yesterday, I was talking to my youth pastor about how he is compromising too much to the visitors (we have a very worldly church. God has me and a few other people there to try and distill it out). I wasn't able to go super deep because we only talked for maybe 20 minutes and didn't have much time to show him some scriptures but this is his phrase he uses for why he does things the way he does. "To catch different kinds of fish, you need different kinds of bait", he supported his statement with Genesis 1:26 and where Jesus tells Simon Peter that he will make him a fisher of men.
Our church is very institutionalized and while it may not be as bad as others, it is still captive to Babylon. It's loaded with 100s of lukewarm believers. Our Youth Group has a good bit of people too but 2/3 of them just come to play basketball and are forced to come inside when service starts. Some in the back even mock people up there speaking sometimes. It's a very sad sight and has very little fellowship with the exception of the people who are coming out of Babylon actually following the Lord which is maybe like... 8 to 10. We hate how worldly our church is.
To get to the point, Our youth leader has all this "bait" to attract the lost. So much that the well is filled with "greenies" and that are bound to catch boatloads of fish. But the problem is, he is using dead bait to attract dead people and isn't actually preaching Jesus. It's just that average believe in Jesus and you'll be saved apostasy. He is definitely saved and full of the spirit but he is shepherding wrong because he is allowing worldly things (carrion, dead stuff) into the church or more accurately stated, he's bringing it.
The bait symbolizes the testimony that we carry as shepherds and the well symbolizes our ministry and outreach. Dead bait as I said before is bait taken from the world for the world expecting to bring the world into the spiritual. Very few churches still set out living bait (the true testimony of Jesus Christ) and are more focused on numbers to determine the ministry's fruitfulness. When they go to pull the bait back up to see what they caught represents the spiritual fruitfulness. When they saw that they had caught no fish and that their bait was dead (many will have that revelation in heaven), they were baffled but how are we supposed to expect to really bring God into peoples' hearts if most of the people come there for reasons other than God?
This is what I saw in the dream and perhaps God gave you that dream to diagnose your problem and my current situation with my church at the same time. When I hear that term dehook, I think of Babylon and when I hear the term "child" I think of the children of God because my friend also has dream and "children" in that dream symbolized believers. We need to dehook ourselves from these dead practices and institutions and look for the actual live bait.
I'm rereading the post a second time and I see that my interpretation is a little awkward when lined up with it but I know it definitely helped give me a great way to give him an illustration of how he is fishing. God Bless
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Post by warrior on Apr 11, 2013 16:45:27 GMT -5
I think you are right that the word shared can be seasonal for more than one.
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Post by buildthefarm on Apr 11, 2013 21:15:54 GMT -5
gggggrrrrr i just lost like 4 paragraphs of message!!!!! ok eric i wish i had somehow saved the first try at this but heres the summary: stop trying to convince the leadership to change their minds its not going to help, get the other who are with you and go directly to God and do this in prayer, itll work!!! my same son had a nighmare a couple minutes ago bout a giant spider chasing him. witchcraft right? can we attack the witches back somehow? after a lifetime of this junk im angry. whats the best way to handle that whole reattack thing again? pray truth and purity on them or what? i so wanna fight now!!  and yes i agree mommy drama exists in them all. what do you see in the dream that seems to indicate MOM so i can know? i forgot all the rest but that basically covers it all |
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Post by hearingGod on Apr 12, 2013 7:28:17 GMT -5
i kno warrior mentioned the shoring up the property b4 & this is what first came to mind. maybe play soaking music on a loop at low volume all night. when u pray his protection over the property... visualize walking the perimeter & declare no gaps or pts of access. when you do.... invite the angels...proclaim protection.... you should do this WITH yer lil' man. any time i see my kids go thru attack stuff i can't help but smile cuz it just shows there is power on them---destiny---calling. so let's put a spiritual weapon in their hands & teach them to fight  as for this mom & de-hook thing.... did the having him axe soul ties bear? did she give em any pagan type gifts that need rid of or 'cleansed'? just throwing out ideas here.... plz don't rampage thru their toys b4 praying LOL. i feel 4 ya bro... and went thru the same thing for looong periods of time.... not fun. i don't 'shore up' anymore unless we have hit after hit.... but i can remember back when every single night was a battle & stuff would still get through. |
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Post by Eric Latham on Apr 12, 2013 21:41:56 GMT -5
Buildthefarm. I am currently fasting right now and am on my 21st day. The last 3 days, God wants me to go no food just water (he had me eating breakfast before) and have been praying often for my church and the other worldly churches. I agree with you though. Prayer is number 1 priority and that is the main reason God has me here but now he wants me to speak with him about the problem. Not sure if I mentioned it on my other post but, it just so happens that he scheduled the time we should meet to really talk about this on monday, the last day of my fast. Spirit nuke on the way! haha |
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Post by buildthefarm on Apr 13, 2013 7:22:52 GMT -5
thats what im talking about!!! your in position! your innocent as a lamb, now be shrewd as a serpent brother. you dont want the worldly people to leave do you? ive got a feeling youd rather see them get hit between the eyes with the transforming power of God once they get there right? so basketball and mockery arent the real issues, hey if it werent for church league basketball i wouldnt have gone to church as a teen i dont think. so cut to the heart of it, what God wants is whats best for church growth and saving souls and transforming lives. God will give you what to say when the time comes, just trust in His word. God bless you.
and sorry that last post was kina angry and forceful. i had written a whole word for you as it came in and then like 3 others as they flowed and then internet failure happened and they all got lost at once, then my son had the nightmare upstairs and i had to run off and help him and by the time i got back to write id only remembered that little bit of it. but God is with you, just keep yourself out of it, and let God work through you. drop that nuke!! lol
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Post by Eric Latham on Apr 13, 2013 11:21:32 GMT -5
Thanks buildthefarm haha. Yea, I've been listening to a lot of Terry Bennett's sermons and he's like a full time prophet against these Babylonian churches and I haven't really been able to diagnose what all babylon is comprised of so sorry for categorizing basketball in there and thanks. That helped me. If you hear one of Terry Bennet's sermons, you'll know where I'm coming from. He's probably the only preacher who can get away with saying "crap"
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Post by warrior on Apr 13, 2013 16:41:08 GMT -5
Found out our son has been having nightly attacks - as he is really operating in the Spirit this has upset someone. We have done all to the house in the past but me and his mum have prayed in his room and I am restating the legalities of ownership and authority.
Symbology mean anything? - came up a few times this weekend - so I've shared.
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